Theme Credit: Justin Noszek (https://theplaguephysicians.bandcamp.com/releases)

We go a little deeper into Rich’s connection with firefighters before watching Eric drive without a license.

Also, if you want to hear this episode uncut and unedited, you can support us on Patreon for as little as $1 a month. Just head over to http://www.patreon.com/joepanc

Follow Rich, he loves Ogre.

Follow Joe, he drove without a license once.